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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: ford v8

2008-12-01T12:47:00.000-08:00

Am I wrong or isn't it true that American Stamping is the only company making stamped rails?
All the others make up fabricated rails, not stampings or are selling AM stamped rails.

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Subject: [flatheadfordv8] Re: ford v8
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 7:43 PM

There are many co.s that make brand new 32 stampings, try Total Cost
Involved, American Stamping, Speedway inc...dave 27T with 37 24 bolt In
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> hi no longer in posession of a ford altho tempted to put a kit car
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somewhere someone has a set just sitting gathering dust?
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[flatheadfordv8] Re: ford v8

2008-11-30T17:43:00.000-08:00

There are many co.s that make brand new 32 stampings, try Total Cost
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[flatheadfordv8] ford v8

2008-11-27T20:15:00.000-08:00

hi no longer in posession of a ford altho tempted to put a kit car together using a 32 roadster but first need to locate a set of 32 rails somewhere someone has a set just sitting gathering dust?

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: PCV valve

2008-11-27T12:22:00.001-08:00

I can understand where you are coming from and I do appreciate all of you. I am a long ways from 100% myself.

Earl in Lawton, OK

________________________________
From: brooks9588 <brooks9588@bellsouth.net>
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 2:18:50 PM
Subject: [flatheadfordv8] Re: PCV valve

Well, I'm an old man and folks are just going to have to over look my
little errors. My old fingers just don't move like they should.

--- In flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com, Jens Munk <Jens.Munk@. ..> wrote:
>
> Minor detail. It's a PCV valve and not PVC. PCV means Positive
Crankcase
> Ventilation while PVC mean Poly Vinyl Chloride which is the type of
> plastic commonly used for e.g. plastic pipes.
>
> I.e. you are looking for a PCV valve ;-)
>
> Jens.
>
> George & Marjorie wrote:
> > Hey Earl,
> >
> > I've got a 1941 Flathead that has the PVC valve setup. However, I
have an aluminum Offenhauser intake manifold. The PVC valve on mine
is located towards the front of the manifold and the vacuum is below
the carb. into the manifold. I can take pictures and send them to you
if need be. Just let me know.
> >
> > George Brooks
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Earl Allbritton
> > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve
> >
> >
> > I have a 1940 Ford flatheadv8 and can anyone tell me how to hook
up and install a PCV valve on this engine?
> > Thanks,
> > Earl in SW Oklahoma.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Trovato
> > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve
> >
> > I've been running it for 5 years - no problems.
> >
> > TomT/Williamsburg, VA
> >
> > > Has anyone tried using a modern PVC valve on an 8 BA? If so
were the
> > > results acceptable?
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[flatheadfordv8] Re: PCV valve

2008-11-27T12:18:00.001-08:00

Well, I'm an old man and folks are just going to have to over look my
little errors. My old fingers just don't move like they should.

--- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, Jens Munk <Jens.Munk@...> wrote:
>
> Minor detail. It's a PCV valve and not PVC. PCV means Positive
Crankcase
> Ventilation while PVC mean Poly Vinyl Chloride which is the type of
> plastic commonly used for e.g. plastic pipes.
>
> I.e. you are looking for a PCV valve ;-)
>
> Jens.
>
> George & Marjorie wrote:
> > Hey Earl,
> >
> > I've got a 1941 Flathead that has the PVC valve setup. However, I
have an aluminum Offenhauser intake manifold. The PVC valve on mine
is located towards the front of the manifold and the vacuum is below
the carb. into the manifold. I can take pictures and send them to you
if need be. Just let me know.
> >
> > George Brooks
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Earl Allbritton
> > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve
> >
> >
> > I have a 1940 Ford flatheadv8 and can anyone tell me how to hook
up and install a PCV valve on this engine?
> > Thanks,
> > Earl in SW Oklahoma.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tom Trovato
> > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve
> >
> > I've been running it for 5 years - no problems.
> >
> > TomT/Williamsburg,VA
> >
> > > Has anyone tried using a modern PVC valve on an 8 BA? If so
were the
> > > results acceptable?
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill aka ironrodder
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Re: [flatheadfordv8] PCV valve

2008-11-27T12:02:00.000-08:00

Minor detail. It's a PCV valve and not PVC. PCV means Positive Crankcase
Ventilation while PVC mean Poly Vinyl Chloride which is the type of
plastic commonly used for e.g. plastic pipes.

I.e. you are looking for a PCV valve ;-)

Jens.

George & Marjorie wrote:
> Hey Earl,
>
> I've got a 1941 Flathead that has the PVC valve setup. However, I have an aluminum Offenhauser intake manifold. The PVC valve on mine is located towards the front of the manifold and the vacuum is below the carb. into the manifold. I can take pictures and send them to you if need be. Just let me know.
>
> George Brooks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Earl Allbritton
> To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve
>
>
> I have a 1940 Ford flatheadv8 and can anyone tell me how to hook up and install a PCV valve on this engine?
> Thanks,
> Earl in SW Oklahoma.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Trovato
> To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve
>
> I've been running it for 5 years - no problems.
>
> TomT/Williamsburg,VA
>
> > Has anyone tried using a modern PVC valve on an 8 BA? If so were the
> > results acceptable?
> >
> >
> > Bill aka ironrodder
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Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve

2008-11-27T09:31:00.000-08:00

Hey Earl,

I've got a 1941 Flathead that has the PVC valve setup. However, I have an aluminum Offenhauser intake manifold. The PVC valve on mine is located towards the front of the manifold and the vacuum is below the carb. into the manifold. I can take pictures and send them to you if need be. Just let me know.

George Brooks

----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Allbritton
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve

I have a 1940 Ford flatheadv8 and can anyone tell me how to hook up and install a PCV valve on this engine?
Thanks,
Earl in SW Oklahoma.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Trovato
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve

I've been running it for 5 years - no problems.

TomT/Williamsburg,VA

> Has anyone tried using a modern PVC valve on an 8 BA? If so were the
> results acceptable?
>
>
> Bill aka ironrodder
> every nights a saturday night and every days a sunday
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Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve

2008-11-26T19:25:00.001-08:00

I have a 1940 Ford flatheadv8 and can anyone tell me how to hook up and install a PCV valve on this engine?
Thanks,
Earl in SW Oklahoma.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Trovato
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] PVC valve

I've been running it for 5 years - no problems.

TomT/Williamsburg,VA

> Has anyone tried using a modern PVC valve on an 8 BA? If so were the
> results acceptable?
>
>
> Bill aka ironrodder
> every nights a saturday night and every days a sunday
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RE: [flatheadfordv8] "HAPPY THANKSGIVING" To All !!!!!!!!

2008-11-25T20:00:00.001-08:00

Happy Thanksgiving from Elma Washington -- Self-proclaimed Slug Capital
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[flatheadfordv8] Re:"HAPPY THANKSGIVING" To All !!!!!!!!

2008-11-25T17:42:00.001-08:00

Happy thanksgiving to everyone out there in this group. I have learned a lot from the discussions and have benefitted from your help. It's amazing how much knowledge is out there!

Thank you and enjoy the holidays!

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[flatheadfordv8] Re: "HAPPY THANKSGIVING" To All !!!!!!!!

2008-11-25T12:52:00.001-08:00

--- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, "Clarence McMillin"
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> Hi Gang,
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Thanksgiving? whats that about? its just Wednesday here in Australia.
Regards
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Re: [flatheadfordv8] "HAPPY THANKSGIVING" To All !!!!!!!!

2008-11-25T10:42:00.000-08:00

Happy Thanksgiving to all from Williamsburg, VA

TomT/Williamsburg

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] "HAPPY THANKSGIVING" To All !!!!!!!!

2008-11-25T09:47:00.000-08:00

Happy Thanksgiving from S.W. Oklahoma. I enjoy the Yahoo Groups.

Earl in Oklahoma.

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Hi Gang,

"HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all from deep in the "Heart of Texas".

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[flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

2008-11-25T09:19:00.000-08:00

I have used many different block sealers over the years, Bars leak I have seen people use so much that the entire block is caked full of the crap. Water glass is by far the best sealer out there followed second by Irontite all weather sealer. Seal lock also makes a product that when used properly will put a block seal coating in the casting that is similar to an inner tube called Seal All. The Seal All is best for when you are doing a rebuild as the casting has to be heated to 200 degrees and pressurized.
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[flatheadfordv8] "HAPPY THANKSGIVING" To All !!!!!!!!

2008-11-25T08:38:00.000-08:00

Hi Gang,

"HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all from deep in the "Heart of Texas".

Enjoy and be safe.

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[flatheadfordv8] Re: Dissapearing water

2008-11-25T03:43:00.001-08:00

-Hi Norm, Here goes my take on this....You state you are over the
recommended torque for the heads. The deck on these flatheads is only
about .250" thick. Your cylinders are bored .125 oversize. This means
thin walls, which combined with the thin deck , particularly when
subjected to over-torquing, easily distort. Another factor is that
overbore has bumped up compression slightly. All these factors
contribute to your water loss. Regardless if you're running cast iron
or aluminum heads, follow the manufacturers torque settings, you
will gain absolutely nothing by exceeding these figures, on the
contrary.
Now although I don't profess to know everything, I am amongst the
minority who prefer these water pump in the heads 21 studders to the
later engines. There are a coupla other factors to bear in mind when
running these engines, that I have learnt over the years.....at high
engine speeds, the water pumps push water straight out the radiator
overflow, remedy is to run thermostats and you'll learn what engine
revs to drive at. There were 3 different radiators available for 35,
try and use the version with the overflow located from the centre,
not under the filler. I always use a 36 top header tank and overflow,
holds more water than the big tank 35 version and has the overflow in
the proper location.
Any questions? feel free to e-mail me, good luck, Brian

-- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, "Norm Miller" <stormin@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> Here goes, I drive my 35 P/U to town and back and it uses at least a
> gallon of water.
> There is no water in the crankcase and no external leaks. I do get
> water or excessive condensation from the exhaust pipes. Headers.
> My guess is heads or head gaskets. I am over the recommended torque
> for the heads.
> The engine is bored over .125 to 3 3/16".
> Could the stock head gaskets be letting water into the combustion
> chambers or do I have cracks on both sides?
> The engine is a 21 stud 36 original block w/ cast iron heads.
> I did put Bars leak in the system but nothing changed.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Norm
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

2008-11-24T21:33:00.001-08:00

If the water has antifreez in it and is getting on the piston you will be
able to smell it in the exhaust while the motor is running.
If you are filling the radiator to the top it will blow some water out
the over flow tube.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norm Miller" <stormin@frii.com>
To: <flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

> Thanks for the information.
>
> I'll try another treatment of Bars and follow up with pressurizing the
> individual cylinders.
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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

2008-11-24T17:36:00.000-08:00

Water Glass works wonderfully, but make SURE you have all chemical additives flues out before you use it...

George

----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Young<mailto:cartravel@pobox.com>
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com<mailto:flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

Instead of BarsLeak, I'd suggest you try a block sealer. There are
several versions available. You want something that contains Sodium
Silicate, aka water glass, and some sort of solid material, usually
copper or aluminum particles. This stuff sets up as a hard ceramic
material. BarsLeak is nothing but goo.

Norm Miller wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I'll try another treatment of Bars and follow up with pressurizing the
> individual cylinders.
>
> Norm
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

2008-11-24T17:27:00.000-08:00

Instead of BarsLeak, I'd suggest you try a block sealer. There are
several versions available. You want something that contains Sodium
Silicate, aka water glass, and some sort of solid material, usually
copper or aluminum particles. This stuff sets up as a hard ceramic
material. BarsLeak is nothing but goo.

Norm Miller wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I'll try another treatment of Bars and follow up with pressurizing the
> individual cylinders.
>
> Norm
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

2008-11-23T19:07:00.001-08:00

Let us know how you make out -Mike

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Norm Miller <stormin@frii.com> wrote:

From: Norm Miller <stormin@frii.com>
Subject: [flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:47 PM

Thanks for the information.

I'll try another treatment of Bars and follow up with pressurizing the individual cylinders.

Norm

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[flatheadfordv8] Re: Disapearing water

2008-11-23T18:47:00.000-08:00

Thanks for the information.

I'll try another treatment of Bars and follow up with pressurizing the individual cylinders.

Norm

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T12:44:00.000-08:00

All of the following are true:

Straight water transfers heat better than a 50/50 mix of antifreeze
and water.

A 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water has a much lower freezing
temperature than straight water.

A 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water has a higher boiling point than
straight water.

Want to know more? Look here:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ethylene-glycol-d_146.html

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/

On Nov 23, 2008, at 12:47 PM, <s.walker4@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Makes no sense to me. It is also well known that the boiling point
> of antifreeze 50/50 with water is higher than water and freezes at
> a much lower temp.
>
> Stan 54F100 & 53 Meteor.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Marlett
> To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
>
> I think it is extremely well established that straight water has a
> somewhat greater ability to transfer heat than antifreeze. I'd still
> run antifreeze if possible.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
>
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Mike R wrote:
>
> > I said the same thing. But found out in the long run they're right.
> > I do run waterpump lube for corrosion and + they are show cars so
> > only get run in the summertime anyway. And I do beg to differ,
> > water cools better...
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/23/08, bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
> > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:46 AM
> >
> > That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and
> > has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning
> > flatheads
> >
> > Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo. com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I
> > built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and
> > said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've
> > been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it
> > misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get
> > pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)
> >
> > --- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico .ca
> > <s.walker4@sympatico .ca> wrote:
> >
> > From: s.walker4@sympatico .ca <s.walker4@sympatico .ca>
> > Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
> > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM
> >
> > Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or
> > for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher
> > boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that
> > reduce corrosion.
> >
> > Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T11:11:00.001-08:00

At 01:47 PM 11/23/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>Makes no sense to me. It is also well known that the boiling point of
antifreeze 50/50 with water is higher than water and freezes at a much
lower temp.

From an IH cooling system manual:
"The boiling point of ethylene glycol anti-freeze solutions is
higher than plain water but their ability to transfer heat is
less. Therefore in hot weather, coolant temperatures will run higher than
systems containing plain water. This also holds true for engine
lubricating oil and transmission oil temperatures where oil to water
coolers are used. b. An anti-freeze concentration greater than 68%
will adversely affect freeze protection and heat transfer rates.
Anti-freeze concentrations between 68 and 100% actually have a
higher freezing point than a 68% anti-freeze concentration. Due to the
higher freezing point and reduced heat transfer rates, concentrations
greater than 68% should not be used."

Raising the boiling point or lowering the freezing point are not related to
the heat transfer ability of the fluid. I believe we modify the
boil/freeze points not to make better heat transfer but to have the fluid
(water) continue to operate over the range we want to run the engine. If
you look through very old manuals you will find things other than EG were
used with water.

See also Redline's Water Wetter and other chemicals to change the surface
wetting if you want to get even more confused! *grin*

Ed

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T10:47:00.001-08:00

Makes no sense to me. It is also well known that the boiling point of antifreeze 50/50 with water is higher than water and freezes at a much lower temp.

Stan 54F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

I think it is extremely well established that straight water has a
somewhat greater ability to transfer heat than antifreeze. I'd still
run antifreeze if possible.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/

On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Mike R wrote:

> I said the same thing. But found out in the long run they're right.
> I do run waterpump lube for corrosion and + they are show cars so
> only get run in the summertime anyway. And I do beg to differ,
> water cools better...
>
> --- On Sun, 11/23/08, bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
> To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:46 AM
>
> That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and
> has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning
> flatheads
>
> Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo. com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I
> built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and
> said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've
> been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it
> misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get
> pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)
>
> --- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico .ca
> <s.walker4@sympatico .ca> wrote:
>
> From: s.walker4@sympatico .ca <s.walker4@sympatico .ca>
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
> To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM
>
> Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or
> for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher
> boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that
> reduce corrosion.
>
> Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T10:36:00.000-08:00

The other and perhaps the most unnoticed problem with overheating on flatheads is the fact that they have two water pumps, and with all that suction as the temp. comes up to running level, the lower rad hoses become very supple and suck in restricting the flow of cooling electrolyte.
Check your lower hoses and if they are a bit soft, the best I have found so far is hydraulic hose from a Freightliner Dealer. Nice ford blue colour as well (-:

Stan 53 F100 & 53 Metero.
----- Original Message -----
From: frdtrks50s
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

I have ran both ways and see no change. I run 50 50 as it gets cold here and I like the rust inhibitors anti freeze provides. Granted it will leak faster than water will.The only heating problem I have had with flatheads were always from clogged radiators.

In a message dated 11/23/08 08:46:52 Eastern Standard Time, ironrodder@yahoo.com writes:
That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning flatheads

Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo.com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM

Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that reduce corrosion.

Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag .com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville, TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag .com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/ water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T09:35:00.000-08:00

I have ran both ways and see no change. I run 50 50 as it gets cold here and I like the rust inhibitors anti freeze provides. Granted it will leak faster than water will.The only heating problem I have had with flatheads were always from clogged radiators.

In a message dated 11/23/08 08:46:52 Eastern Standard Time, ironrodder@yahoo.com writes:
That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning flatheads

Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo.com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM

Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that reduce corrosion.

Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag .com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville, TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag .com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/ water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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[flatheadfordv8] The '49 truck rides again

2008-11-23T08:25:00.001-08:00

Just went for a toot in the '49 truck. Had to swap out starters to get her going. Oboy... lying on frozen gravel was a lot more fun when I was a young buck.

You could say I prepped for this chore with a frosty motorcycle ride on Tuesday. The temp was 26F on the front porch when I left, rode 86 miles on the highway. That amounts to 4 degrees F at 65mph.

F is right. F that.

Took me two days to warm up again.

Tony

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T07:32:00.000-08:00

I think it is extremely well established that straight water has a
somewhat greater ability to transfer heat than antifreeze. I'd still
run antifreeze if possible.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/

On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Mike R wrote:

> I said the same thing. But found out in the long run they're right.
> I do run waterpump lube for corrosion and + they are show cars so
> only get run in the summertime anyway. And I do beg to differ,
> water cools better...
>
> --- On Sun, 11/23/08, bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
> To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:46 AM
>
> That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and
> has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning
> flatheads
>
> Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo. com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I
> built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and
> said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've
> been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it
> misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get
> pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)
>
> --- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico .ca
> <s.walker4@sympatico .ca> wrote:
>
> From: s.walker4@sympatico .ca <s.walker4@sympatico .ca>
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
> To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM
>
> Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or
> for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher
> boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that
> reduce corrosion.
>
> Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T05:56:00.001-08:00

I said the same thing. But found out in the long run they're right. I do run waterpump lube for corrosion and + they are show cars so only get run in the summertime anyway. And I do beg to differ, water cools better...

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bill reid <ironrodder@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:46 AM

That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning flatheads

Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo. com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico .ca <s.walker4@sympatico .ca> wrote:

From: s.walker4@sympatico .ca <s.walker4@sympatico .ca>
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM

Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that reduce corrosion.

Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag .com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville, TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag .com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/ water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-23T05:46:00.001-08:00

That makes no sense to me what so ever. anti freeze runs cooler and has more rust and pump protection. after over 40 years owning flatheads

Mike R <drake_tr7@yahoo.com> wrote: Don't ask me why, but when I built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM

Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that reduce corrosion.

Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag .com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville, TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag .com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/ water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-22T20:09:00.000-08:00

Water cools a little more efficiently than antifreeze, but the
difference isn't all that great. If a car is overheating with
antifreeze, then you need to find out why it is overheating rather
than putting a Bandaid on the problem, IMHO. We ran water in the race
car because we were cheap and we kept draining it.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 8:31 PM, <s.walker4@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or
> for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher
> boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that
> reduce corrosion.
>
> Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Marlett
> To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
>
> That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
> thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
> in time.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
>
> On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:
>
> > Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> > Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth
> Airborne
> > and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be
> discharged, I
> > didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> > my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> > went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> > dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> > minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> > cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> > out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> > and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville,TN
> > one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> > have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> > Jim Arnold
> >
> > --- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> > is
> > > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> > barracks
> > > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> > yellow
> > > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> > >
> > > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> > you
> > > could drive it if you got the urge.
> > >
> > > Jim Marlett
> > > http://flatheaddrag.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> > winter?
> > > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> > and
> > > > run until dies.
> > > > Anti-freeze/water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...>
> > > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > > >
> > > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > > recomend ? charley
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-22T18:40:00.001-08:00

Don't ask me why, but when I built my Model T 15yrs ago the old timers shook their heads and said "drain that shit out of there and put water in it" and they've been right...it cools better. Plus when you work on it, or if it misbehaves, it makes a lot less of a mess. My T and two A's get pure water. But the blown Mark VII, that's another thing ;-)

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: s.walker4@sympatico.ca <s.walker4@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:31 PM

Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that reduce corrosion.

Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag .com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville, TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag .com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/ water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@ ...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-22T18:31:00.001-08:00

Why would you run straight water in any region of North America or for that matter in the World? The 50/50 provides you with a higher boiling point and also has additives that are inhibitors that reduce corrosion.

Stan 54 F100 & 53 Meteor.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Marlett
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville,TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-22T17:01:00.000-08:00

That's how my race car met its end. Both my partner and I each
thought the other had drained the block. Didn't discover our mistake
in time.

Jim Marlett
http://flatheaddrag.com/

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Jim Arnold wrote:

> Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
> Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
> and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
> didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
> my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
> went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
> dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
> minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
> cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
> out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
> and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville,TN
> one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
> have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
> Jim Arnold
>
> --- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> > Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
> is
> > in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> > That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
> barracks
> > floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
> yellow
> > stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> > flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
> >
> > I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
> you
> > could drive it if you got the urge.
> >
> > Jim Marlett
> > http://flatheaddrag.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
> winter?
> > > In the South? In Dixie?
> > > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
> and
> > > run until dies.
> > > Anti-freeze/water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > > drain radiator and block completely.
> > > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...>
> > > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> > >
> > > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > > recomend ? charley
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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[flatheadfordv8] Re: (unknown)

2008-11-22T16:25:00.001-08:00

Jim, I can attest to the fact it sometimes gets very cold in
Tennessee. I too was stationed at Ft Campbell ('53-'55) llth Airborne
and one night in Feb. '55, two weeks before I was to be discharged, I
didn't drain the radiator after returning from off base visit with
my '48 Ford Convert. It was just cool, probably about 50 deg. when I
went into barracks for the night. By morning the temperature had
dropped to 7 deg F. and after starting the car and running for a few
minutes it began pumping water from both tailpipes. The block was
cracked from front to back along the pan rail. It took my mustering
out pay ($200) and a lot of help from friends to get a short block
and stuff it in the '48 in a small back alley shop in Clarksville,TN
one day after I was discharged, so I could motor on home. Same car I
have now, although a bit improved after 8 years work ('98 - '06).
Jim Arnold

--- In flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com, Jim Marlett <jmarlett@...>
wrote:
>
> When I was in the Army, I was took basic training at Ft. Campbell,
> Kentucky. They only describe it as Kentucky because headquarters
is
> in Kentucky. Most of it, including my barracks, was in Tennessee.
> That winter the whole post froze up. My boots froze to the
barracks
> floor one night, actually several nights, and the urinals had
yellow
> stalagmites in them because the water pipes froze and there was no
> flushing. Yes, it gets cold in Tennessee.
>
> I'd use a standard 50/50 mix of antifreeze myself, because then
you
> could drive it if you got the urge.
>
> Jim Marlett
> http://flatheaddrag.com/
>
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Dean Jones wrote:
>
> > Wow, do people in Tennessee actually put cars to bed for the
winter?
> > In the South? In Dixie?
> > Add Sta-bil to a full tank of gas, Disconnect fuel line at carb
and
> > run until dies.
> > Anti-freeze/water mix to lowest possible winter temperature or
> > drain radiator and block completely.
> > Put on jackstands so tires won't flat-spot.
> > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: CHUCK GOODWIN <charley_wayne@...>
> > Subject: [flatheadfordv8] (unknown)
> > To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 1:13 PM
> >
> > question to any of you knuckle busters? new to tennessee,have a
> > calif 41 super deluxe fordor .needto put it to bed for the
> > winter.Do I winterize the gas or drain it and how do I keep the
> > water from freezing,it has the old radiator. What do you
> > recomend ? charley
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: [flatheadfordv8] Dissapearing water

2008-11-22T15:16:00.003-08:00

Norm, don'y know if this will help but been there too...I got my 29 A hot when I had a catastrophic radiator failure, hot enough to crack a head. Got a relpacement and carefully inspected the motor before I put the head on. After a hundred miles or so it did your same trick exactly...turned out there was a crack developed from #2 exaust seat right down into the cylinder. The point is that crack wasn't visible 100 miles earlier.... The barrel was fine so I just stiched it with brass pins and JB weld so it cost nothing to fix. If you rigged up an air fitting to go into a sparkplug, you could roll it to compression stoke on each barrel and apply air, top the radiaor up and the bubbles would tell you which barrel it is. -Mike

--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Norm Miller <stormin@frii.com> wrote:

From: Norm Miller <stormin@frii.com>
Subject: [flatheadfordv8] Dissapearing water
To: flatheadfordv8@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 5:43 PM

Hi Group,

Here goes, I drive my 35 P/U to town and back and it uses at least a
gallon of water.
There is no water in the crankcase and no external leaks. I do get
water or excessive condensation from the exhaust pipes. Headers.
My guess is heads or head gaskets. I am over the recommended torque
for the heads.
The engine is bored over .125 to 3 3/16".
Could the stock head gaskets be letting water into the combustion
chambers or do I have cracks on both sides?
The engine is a 21 stud 36 original block w/ cast iron heads.
I did put Bars leak in the system but nothing changed.

Thanks for your help,
Norm

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